Looking at the variation, though, was confusing aren't chess "listings" usually in a two column format, so that each White move is beside each Black move? I wanted to reformat it like that, but because of the extra possibilities and stuff like that, I didn't know how to. Camembert 13:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC) Reply While I'm not a chess expert, I know how to play. It makes no sense for the article to say "In return for his material, Black has." before there's been any indication that Black has given material up. What's wrong with it, exactly? What I think is important is that the variation itself comes before any discussion of it that is, the moves that define the variation should come first. As with the above, though, it didn't seem hideous to me even before this. – Dvandersluis 19:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Reply I've put the main line in bold which I hope will help the reader to separate it out from the mini-variations. I've reformatted the rest of the article (mostly wikilinks), but that paragraph (which I moved into its own section) needs to be easier to read, and I didn't know how to do it myself. The list of moves that make up the variation badly need a reformat. this is the kind of article that makes wikipedia so great. It's really hard to make articles like this accessable to everyone, of course (people who don't know how to play will probably need to at least read rules of chess first), but I think this isn't too bad as it stands. It's hard for me to judge, because it didn't seem too bad to me the way it was before. I've expanded the article a bit maybe people will find it less tehcnical now. As for being too technical: I don't think it is too technical for anyone who understands chess notation, and these are the only ones likely to be interested in such an article. Seriously, an obscure variation in the Vienna game does not really merit more than a short article. Cyrius| ✎ 05:11, (UTC) Please don't change other people's comments. Stop marking this page as 'stub' or 'too techinical'!! Chess I presume - but don't expect your reader to know that. Right at the start you need to say what it relates to. Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeDoyle ( talk Surely there a more appropriate, earlier version? Perhaps the " excellent little article" referred to below. This is the 3.Bc5 variation of the Falkbeer Variation of the Vienna game. This is not the Vienna Game, Frankenstein–Dracula Variation.
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